Sunday, September 17, 2006

That's Right I Said It

I got respect for Dawn Eden:

Unfortunately, efforts to objectify and marginalize women come from both sides of the political spectrum and everywhere in between. Jessica and I disagree on virtually everything, but she has my sympathy on this one.

Thank you, Dawn. You at least acknowledge something I can't get even supposedly "more moderate" women to cop to: Objectification happens, and it doesn't feel too good when you're the object.

It's likely Dawn sources the root causes of objectification quite differently than I do, but I'd still rather read a statement like hers than have yet another head-to-desk go-round about whether objectification exists/is evolutionarily "natural"/is a dirty lie told by feminazis/would be okay if only women would just quit complaining about it, etc.

Bravo, Dawn for not dodging that uncomfortable reality. It happens. It happens, and it's lousy.

P.S. But, Dawn, if you read this, do me a favor and don't read any other posts on this blog, because they tend to have all kinds of cusses in them (except I do keep the 2nd Commandment, but still) and also, one of them contains a picture of my boobs (in a bra, but still). I am sorry. :(

11 comments:

belledame222 said...

!!

Jan said...

An honest acknowledgement of how much Clinton and his defenders, including his female ones, have done to the status of women might match Dawn's honesty.

But I don't expect to hear that kind of honesty from the left.

Susan said...

I knew you'd come around. ;-) Seriously, you should read Dawn...I think you would agree with her more than you think you would.

And add me to those that agree with you and Dawn about the tacky "intern" jokes about Jessica. And I've always thought Althouse was overrated.

ilyka said...

An honest acknowledgement of how much Clinton and his defenders, including his female ones, have done to the status of women might match Dawn's honesty.

Uh-huh . . . look, "jan," this has nothing to do with Clinton. Find something else to do with your talking points than regurgitate them herem.

Chris said...

except I do keep the 2nd Commandment

From my cold dead hands!

Oh. Commandment. Never mind.

JackGoff said...

But I don't expect to hear that kind of honesty from the left.

Cool. Then go away.

Jan said...

Wait? It has nothing to do with Clinton?

My bad. I thought it had to do with a Monica Lewinsky clone posing next to Clinton with all the dignity of a streetwalker and the obvious ironic commentary on feminism.

ilyka said...

I thought it had to do with a Monica Lewinsky clone

You're right! Jessica should go back in time and REARRANGE HER OWN DNA so she doesn't have black hair and a mighty bosom.

with all the dignity of a streetwalker

EXCUSE YOU? She's standing, Jan. To paraphrase Amanda, she ain't doing a fucking pole dance.

and the obvious ironic commentary on feminism.

It's obvious only if (1) all you want to take from the Clinton years is Lewinsky, Lewinsky, Lewinsky! Personally I was more appalled by the Elian Gonzalez incident, but whatever, I guess I'm just deeply unserious, and (2) you might want to see this for what I think about Clinton and feminism.

Oh, and (3) there is no excuse, none, for shoehorning a perfect stranger into your tired-ass Lewinsky joke and then, when she points out that this is a cheap and unfeminist thing to do, spending your entire next day KEEPING IT UP.

belledame222 said...

bahaha.

yeah, really, yet more tired-ass juvenile sniggering about -snort, snork, know what THIS reminds me of, don'tcha?? LOL- is now suddenly elevated to a -legitimate feminist critique.-

Here's my legitimate answering feminist critique:

"Pull my finger."

Seriously. That's all that merits.

belledame222 said...

and uh, yeah: last time I checked, streetwalkers were ALSO women; even if perfectly-normal-looking-to-everyone-but-the-profoundly-fucked-up Jessica V. HAD been a streetwalker, or looked like one, and she was being honored with a luncheon with the ex-President, and a bunch of nasty overgrown Heathers came by and started making remarks about her HAIR her TITS her CLOTHES her POSE who does she think she IS, vapid little...

well, hey, you already called her a streetwalker; how the fuck much worse can it get? Don't answer that. Much as many of the supposed leftie feminists are driving me batshit with their pitiful thin varnish of dogmababble obfuscation over plain ol' "WHORE!!", I gotta say, maybe even a varnish is better than nothing sometimes.

...anyway, I see absolutely no reason to treat an actual streetwalker the way you lot are. No -good- reason, anyway. Defending this kind of shit by appealing to some even more Bizarro World variant of feminism than those I have been encountering lately is bad enough. hey, who among y'all is ALSO a Christian, I wonder?

"Stone the strumpet!"

Uh huh.

Seriously: what the hell is wrong with you, anyway? I mean, damn.

JackGoff said...

what the hell is wrong with you, anyway?

The fuckstains aren't Christians, but Paulists. That's why they lob stones, left and right. The see themselves as wrapped in the "Armor of God" and that makes them without sin.

FUCKSTAINS!