tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29906474.post3512418913638226562..comments2023-12-22T03:20:29.631-07:00Comments on Ilyka Damen: Which Americans? Which Feminists? Which Women?ilykahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01286988732452435904noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29906474.post-19884030555757092852008-01-25T04:51:00.000-07:002008-01-25T04:51:00.000-07:00I'm glad you posted this. I had the exact same two...I'm glad you posted this. I had the exact same two thoughts at first. But then my mind jumped immediately to <BR/><BR/><I>"American feminists, for lack of a better term, need to quit thinking of other women on the globe as Far Away and Over There, as women to be talked about but never to."</I><BR/><BR/>It's good you fleshed this out a bit more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29906474.post-39230410087377429322008-01-24T20:31:00.000-07:002008-01-24T20:31:00.000-07:00DO NOT READ JONGDO NOT DO ITwhen her big complaint...DO NOT READ JONG<BR/><BR/>DO NOT DO IT<BR/><BR/>when her big complaint is wahh men on my boards are mean to me<BR/><BR/>i wish I hadnt<BR/><BR/>Me and SYlvia keep bandying it about but I love that these older feminists don't talk about how for many young middle calss owmen <BR/><BR/>ignoring feminism isn't a hwim but sane life choice.<BR/><BR/>That if in a world where you earn less your family makes less and teh only wya to not die in debt is to marry well<BR/><BR/>( and tehy failed spectacularly a tlobbying for equal pay and teh ERA)<BR/><BR/>being careful about not reducaing your marriage prospects <BR/><BR/>isn't you being timid or silly<BR/><BR/>but you being really smart.<BR/><BR/>You ignoring peopel who ignore your life to stare ta their bellybuttons<BR/><BR/>not stupid<BR/> but really smartBlackamazonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13726019544296849558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29906474.post-90755431686182921662008-01-24T13:59:00.000-07:002008-01-24T13:59:00.000-07:00ANd it blows but if we are going to be honest abou...<EM>ANd it blows but if we are going to be honest about the fact they really don't care about anything but their " feelings" and the perceptions of the people they hope to join in the power structure ( HELLO ERICA JONG)</EM><BR/><BR/>You know I still haven't brought myself to search out that Jong essay and read it? I'm not looking for a quick ticket to a migraine, I guess.<BR/><BR/>You're right: It's a maneuver to convince the sorts of white women who are all "I consider myself more of a humanist than a feminist" that Yes, You Are Too a Feminist, Come Join Us, We Are on the Side of Angels, etc.<BR/><BR/>Not only is that dehumanizing to and dismissive of WOC already hard at work DOING what Pollitt claims credit for in her letter, I don't think it even works for what they want it to work for. I don't think it will convince white women who've now had years and years of being bombarded with the meme that "American feminism" is a self-centered, shallow, and possibly obsolete enterprise that any of that is incorrect.<BR/><BR/>Pollitt is not going to erase that perception with one letter. What that letter IS going to do is accept and reinforce the framing created by conservatives, while once again tripping gaily over the backs of the women it purports to care about.<BR/><BR/><EM>Their not out recruiting WOC feminists tehir out recruiting other white women</EM><BR/><BR/>To their own detriment. Funny how that works.ilykahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01286988732452435904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29906474.post-66005512704425567112008-01-24T12:45:00.000-07:002008-01-24T12:45:00.000-07:00Damn, I'm glad you're back blogging.Damn, I'm glad you're back blogging.K. Easonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17681881260894407280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29906474.post-7471644023682175892008-01-24T11:50:00.000-07:002008-01-24T11:50:00.000-07:00Jeannette Rankin (June 11, 1880 – May 18, 1973) wa...Jeannette Rankin (June 11, 1880 – May 18, 1973) was the first woman elected to the United States House of Representatives and the first female member of Congress<BR/><BR/>On November 7, 1916 she was elected to the House of Representatives as a Republican from Montana, becoming the first female member of Congress. This was quite remarkable at the time, considering that the Nineteenth Amendment (which gave women the right to vote) was not ratified until 1920. Therefore, during Rankin's first term in Congress (1917-1919), many women throughout the country did not have the right to vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29906474.post-64105957106368263402008-01-24T09:07:00.000-07:002008-01-24T09:07:00.000-07:00I agree but also after a couple weeks I am startin...I agree but also after a couple weeks I am starting to think that we have to really and truly adress the fact that a lot of American feminists don't care.<BR/><BR/>ANd it blows but if we are going to be honest about the fact they really don't care about anything but their " feelings" and the perceptions of the people they hope to join in the power structure ( HELLO ERICA JONG)<BR/><BR/>The but were GREAT isnt actually a defensive posture but a recruitingone trying to get more people who AGREE iwth this to reflexivelysid eiwth them as WOC are objects to be bandied about.<BR/><BR/>Their not out recruiting WOC feminists tehir out recruiting other white womenBlackamazonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13726019544296849558noreply@blogger.com